tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4866947503973668447.post368415201401146505..comments2022-07-25T05:34:22.364-07:00Comments on "Turn Him Out!": a PBR Fansite: Something's Rotten in the State of Colorado?Montana Barn Cathttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04593180097797555574noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4866947503973668447.post-80216505136242683202011-08-23T14:43:40.410-07:002011-08-23T14:43:40.410-07:00SaraT, thanks. I saw that article earlier and I f...SaraT, thanks. I saw that article earlier and I found it very curious. I wonder if Ty Murray and the vet quoted represent the official PR stance on the issue. It is good (maybe not the right word) to see this reported. I will be interested to see what the other two parts will cover.<br /><br />I find it interesting that the UBBI seems to be very proactive on this. ABBI, not so much.<br /><br />http://www.unitedbuckingbulls.com/blog/united-bucking-bulls-inc-to-host-educational-seminarPearl de Verehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00710636662894485591noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4866947503973668447.post-17166138173641306962011-08-16T07:18:45.734-07:002011-08-16T07:18:45.734-07:00Welcome, Anonymous. First off, there is some doubt...Welcome, Anonymous. First off, there is some doubt among reputable bull breeders about whether giving bulls steroids actually improves their performance. The last time this issue raised its ugly head, Josh Peters, who wrote Fried Twinkies, published an article on the subject that you may find interesting: http://sports.yahoo.com/top/news?slug=jo-bullsteroids100107<br /><br />I really don't think the improvement in bull power has come from giving them drugs--I think the breeding programs are getting better and more scientific, and since the life cycle and working life of a bull is shorter than that of a rider, incremental improvements with the bulls result in much more dramatic differences in a shorter period of time. <br /><br />And I would never tell any of my readers how they should respond to something like this, but I, for one, will not be calling PETA. I have no tolerance for zealots of any stripe, and PETA, with its take-no-prisoners attitude, is among the worst. That organization is at least as bad as CREDO or the NRA.Stockyard Queenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03036587088523124787noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4866947503973668447.post-52150531100016774592011-08-15T17:29:27.652-07:002011-08-15T17:29:27.652-07:00I have felt for a long time that the bulls have be...I have felt for a long time that the bulls have been getting so much stronger. The cowboys are little guys. No athlete should be given performance drugs. What the breeders have bred are super bulls ON STEROIDS. What is it going to take? A death of a cowboy? Maybe someone should contact PETA?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4866947503973668447.post-80059158479879059902011-08-15T16:15:26.612-07:002011-08-15T16:15:26.612-07:00Shannon, I agree. But if we look at any equestria...Shannon, I agree. But if we look at any equestrian sport, I guess it shouldn't have been as surprising-- there are plenty of "cowboy" way types out there taking shortcuts with Quarter Horses. It's still disappointing and horrifying.<br /><br />I have to imagine that all the cowboys sign a very lengthy waiver that prevents them from suing pretty much anyone involved in the sport. I do think it it irresponsible to drug bulls from that perspective too, but then there are some bulls, like bulls that spend a significant amount of their formative years unhandled, who are simply mean without any kind of "enhancement." I don't think the PBR wants anyone to be held responsible for the unpredictable actions of animals, drugged or not. But, if I were a cowboy, it might make me pause!<br /><br />It's just messy, messy, messy, and a shame.Pearl de Verehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00710636662894485591noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4866947503973668447.post-6508127857421667602011-08-15T14:38:17.976-07:002011-08-15T14:38:17.976-07:00I have been seeing snippets of chatter about this ...I have been seeing snippets of chatter about this here and there, and I agree that it is very disturbing. I have to assume that the PBR is taking this very seriously, and will manage to get organized to deal with it. At least, I really, really hope so.Shawkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03702605335177150318noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4866947503973668447.post-3130094866834367092011-08-12T15:04:45.275-07:002011-08-12T15:04:45.275-07:00Good Lord, if this turns out to be a commonly used...Good Lord, if this turns out to be a commonly used thing, then the fall out could be massive. What were the people already using drugs thinking?! Wait...they obviously weren't. <br /><br />All of those things you mentioned are a big deal. Let's also not forget that any one of these bulls that have been on performance enhancing drugs could kill any one of the riders. I've thought that in just my few years of watching the bull power was getting too dangerous. Just a normal bull could kill someone, but to put a rider on the back of one whose been enhanced? That's obscene. If I were any of the riders seriously injured on a bull that I found out was drugged, I'd look into suing the stock contractor.shannonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06917315124069408543noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4866947503973668447.post-70556105278072311122011-08-12T14:26:06.287-07:002011-08-12T14:26:06.287-07:00There you have it, folks. Pearl and I have been mu...There you have it, folks. Pearl and I have been mulling this over for months now, and made the decision early on that we would not say a word about it until we could find independent, and public, verification that something bad had gone down. We have that now, from two unimpeachable sources. <br /><br />But confirming you're right about something and feeling good about it are two different things. We can only assume this situation is true, and the idea makes me physically ill.Stockyard Queenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03036587088523124787noreply@blogger.com