tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4866947503973668447.post8895584177559825528..comments2022-07-25T05:34:22.364-07:00Comments on "Turn Him Out!": a PBR Fansite: More Adventures in DelusionMontana Barn Cathttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04593180097797555574noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4866947503973668447.post-80406141015224188822013-03-13T21:41:48.081-07:002013-03-13T21:41:48.081-07:00Many of the bulls today are not produced the "...Many of the bulls today are not produced the "old fashion" way. It is very common now to AI a proven cow with semen shipped in from proven bull, then flush the embryo and place it in a recip cow to gestate. They can also take the eggs out of the said cow, fertilize the egg and the implant the embryo in a recip cow. This way a proven cow can produce more than 1 calf a year. They are also getting better & better at knowing if the embryo is male or female. I don't know if the ABBI has limits on how many embryos can be used from a cow per year, but the horse world has limitations. I do know that it is much more cost effective to do this in cattle than it is in horses. Straws of semen of proven bulls are going for thousands of dollars and eggs from proven cows are worth even more. It's a big money business, one that they have gotten serious about......and one that I doubt ever comes into play when producing future bull riders. :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4866947503973668447.post-42801395684070312862013-03-01T05:31:37.039-08:002013-03-01T05:31:37.039-08:00Anonymous, as far as I know, there are only a hand...Anonymous, as far as I know, there are only a handful of clones competing in the BFTS--the Panhandle Slim clones, and maybe one or two of the Dr. Proctor clones. All of the rest of the bulls are produced the old-fashioned way. Maybe we should encourage the best riders to arrange marriages between their kids? Although there might be trouble if Justin McBride's daughter can to ride bulls better than Chris Shivers' sons do.Montana Barn Cathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04593180097797555574noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4866947503973668447.post-37014719331328805682013-02-28T14:41:06.153-08:002013-02-28T14:41:06.153-08:00I did submit and pay the $39 for the LEC. I did n...I did submit and pay the $39 for the LEC. I did not do so last year. I refused to do so when they changed the rules in the middle of the season. I do watch now, if I am home. Now with the added girls in the Monster outfits, etc... hanging by the announcers before each event, I am appalled at the new exploitation of women. <br /><br />I believe that the stock contractors are breeding the bulls and they are getting stronger and stronger. After all, they are clones. What would be fair would be if we could clone Shivers or McBride or Adriano then maybe the playing field would become level. I want to see rides in the short go, not all buck offs..Call me frustrated as well.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4866947503973668447.post-52612668781218198702013-02-28T05:03:09.454-08:002013-02-28T05:03:09.454-08:00Dub said on at least one occasion that he didn'...Dub said on at least one occasion that he didn't approve of clones bucking in the PBR, but if we've learned anything since the Panhandle Slim clones came on the scene, it's that cloned bulls are not exact replicas of their daddies. None of the Panhandle Slim clones has even come close to matching his ferocity, and I can only recall having seen one of the Doctor Proctor clones at a BFTS event--one time. It turns out that nurture sometimes does trump nature--big surprise!Stockyard Queenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03036587088523124787noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4866947503973668447.post-39076346919654222632013-02-28T03:43:59.175-08:002013-02-28T03:43:59.175-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Stockyard Queenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03036587088523124787noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4866947503973668447.post-5432028503288698392013-02-27T16:44:14.285-08:002013-02-27T16:44:14.285-08:00It usually turns out that he mumbles something abo...It usually turns out that he mumbles something about their "daddy" (referring to Panhandle Slim), gets flustered, and then talks about how they all look and buck similarly (surprise?). It probably would be better if he let Craig handle it, I'm somewhat alarmed to say.Shawkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03702605335177150318noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4866947503973668447.post-5359397258524794402013-02-27T15:30:44.997-08:002013-02-27T15:30:44.997-08:00For the answer to that question, over to you, Shaw...For the answer to that question, over to you, Shawk!Stockyard Queenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03036587088523124787noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4866947503973668447.post-42635143195112783012013-02-27T15:28:36.317-08:002013-02-27T15:28:36.317-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Stockyard Queenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03036587088523124787noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4866947503973668447.post-46586312270456712792013-02-27T15:24:17.523-08:002013-02-27T15:24:17.523-08:00Sounds like it's a good thing that I tend to t...Sounds like it's a good thing that I tend to tune out the commentators. I have heard, many times, though the comments you all are talking about and yeah, they do need to do something. Poor Craig is trying to keep the ball rolling so there's no dead air time (except during rides--last year, they started staying silent for rides. Are they still doing that? I don't recall.) and yet people complain that he says some dumb things. Maybe if the others would explain a few more things, it wouldn't be so bad.<br /><br />What does J.W. (I can't say JDub...I just can't...not after this, anyway :) say about cloning? You all have me interested now.shannonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06917315124069408543noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4866947503973668447.post-73270820396149324042013-02-27T14:16:23.481-08:002013-02-27T14:16:23.481-08:00And this is a guy who breeds bucking bulls for a l...And this is a guy who breeds bucking bulls for a living, but doesn't seem to understand what cloning is. I suppose you know that JDub and his wife are home schooling their kids. I hate to imagine what their biology lessons will consist of.Stockyard Queenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03036587088523124787noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4866947503973668447.post-71178197702758640972013-02-27T13:56:01.062-08:002013-02-27T13:56:01.062-08:00At least he wasn't talking about a clone. J.W....At least he wasn't talking about a clone. J.W. Hart still seems unclear on that concept, unfortunately.<br /><br />My favorite is when Hart will say, "That wasn't that bull's usual trip," but he won't bother to tell us what was different about it. Thanks, JDub. Back to you, Craig.Shawkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03702605335177150318noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4866947503973668447.post-88393913349265239572013-02-27T13:25:22.455-08:002013-02-27T13:25:22.455-08:00And while we're on the subject, could I just a...And while we're on the subject, could I just add--for the love of God, BRING BACK JUSTIN MCKEE! Did anybody besides me notice this past weekend when JDub was talking about Bushwhacker that he kept alluding to "his daddy," like of course EVERYBODY would know who Bushwhacker's daddy was? We need somebody on board who can tell us more than, "This here bull is a good little bull, he should be around to the right with a lot of up and down." I. Can't. Stand. It.Stockyard Queenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03036587088523124787noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4866947503973668447.post-15969892408798728532013-02-27T12:14:07.093-08:002013-02-27T12:14:07.093-08:00I considered making it a drinking game that I woul...I considered making it a drinking game that I would drink each time a commentator says that so and so can ride any bull here and then so and so promptly hits the dirt, except I'd be on the floor in round one.<br /><br />It's already been demonstrated that as the bull power gets better and better, there are going to be more and more buck offs. And the PBR has a problem -- audiences in general like to see rides, or at least a ride or two. So, as you have pointed out, the PBR needs to recognize the increasing difficulty level during their broadcasts, and/or focus more on the bulls, because the cowboys aren't necessarily going to come through.Shawkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03702605335177150318noreply@blogger.com